thanks Saintbertholdt...
will check it out, there were a few clips from it on the interview I watched... I think I'll end up watching these guys for most of the rest of my Saturday evening.
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Christopher Hitchens Vs Armageddon
by The Marvster ini've just spent a big part of today watching interviews, debates etc with richard dawkins.
when i was a jw i used to hate this man with all my energy, i looked on him as the devil's offspring, he represented an idea that totally terrified me.
today i found myself saying i love the man.
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Christopher Hitchens Vs Armageddon
by The Marvster ini've just spent a big part of today watching interviews, debates etc with richard dawkins.
when i was a jw i used to hate this man with all my energy, i looked on him as the devil's offspring, he represented an idea that totally terrified me.
today i found myself saying i love the man.
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The Marvster
Clarity..
yep, I've only seen little bits, and found his thinking 'devastating' when he analyses bible logic etc... but OMG, glad I didn't ever meet someone like that when I used to do JW recruiting... My faith would have probably ended that very day...
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Christopher Hitchens Vs Armageddon
by The Marvster ini've just spent a big part of today watching interviews, debates etc with richard dawkins.
when i was a jw i used to hate this man with all my energy, i looked on him as the devil's offspring, he represented an idea that totally terrified me.
today i found myself saying i love the man.
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The Marvster
Shoot, I'm done for.. damn it... lol... I was hoping there was still some sheep in me (erm, not the other way around of course)
But now I love them both. Carl Sagan in a sexual way (just kidding)
Lol, I forgot to mention that my 'love' for Dawkins is 'as a friend'... today was the final straw when I found out that while he was a young researcher, the mathematics was slowing him down so he started to use the then 'only computer' at Oxford University... he then taught himself programming language using zero's and 1's so he could make the computer do his calculations, and then ended up 'teaching' his fellow scientists the programming language.... my respect for him suddenly went through the roof... this guy is the man's man for sure...
yeah Hitchens definitely seems arrogant at times and definitely polemic... I recon you would have won the fist fight, he was pretty out of shape in a couple of the vids i watched... LOl
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Christopher Hitchens Vs Armageddon
by The Marvster ini've just spent a big part of today watching interviews, debates etc with richard dawkins.
when i was a jw i used to hate this man with all my energy, i looked on him as the devil's offspring, he represented an idea that totally terrified me.
today i found myself saying i love the man.
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The Marvster
By the way,
something that has been 'bothering' me lately is the question; 'am I technically an APOSTATE' now I'm sharing these ideas with people on this forum?
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Christopher Hitchens Vs Armageddon
by The Marvster ini've just spent a big part of today watching interviews, debates etc with richard dawkins.
when i was a jw i used to hate this man with all my energy, i looked on him as the devil's offspring, he represented an idea that totally terrified me.
today i found myself saying i love the man.
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The Marvster
I've just spent a big part of today watching interviews, debates etc with Richard Dawkins. When I was a JW I used to hate this man with all my energy, I looked on him as the devil's offspring, he represented an idea that totally terrified me.
today I found myself saying I love the man. Anyway a Richard Dawkins video was linked to Christopher Hitchens videos and I found this one particularly interesting. He was basically talking about how he detests the whole attitude in certain religions, i.e., that longing for god's great day to come when billions will be destroyed while the faithful stand by gleefully watching, awaiting their salvation to eternal bliss, while 99.99% of mankind experience gruesome divine execution.
This is a subject often mentioned on this forum so thought I'd post this vid (of course it might be 'very' old news already seen by many, if so, sorry)
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Had any weird dreams recently?
by LoveUniHateExams inso, i'll go first.. i dreamt last night that i was still at uni, i said goodbye to one of my lecturers.
then ulrika jonsson (former weather girl, shooting stars captain, and swedish nymphomaniac) gave me a lift home in her car - wtf?!
she kept trying to change the cd whilst trying to drive (reaching on the floor, looking for a cd).
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The Marvster
Oh and I used the 'hold your nose and try to breathe through it' test when I wanted to check it was a dream....
the first time that worked, lol, I was flabberghasted, and of course the dream crumbled as I got too excited, I woke up a few seconds later... lol
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Had any weird dreams recently?
by LoveUniHateExams inso, i'll go first.. i dreamt last night that i was still at uni, i said goodbye to one of my lecturers.
then ulrika jonsson (former weather girl, shooting stars captain, and swedish nymphomaniac) gave me a lift home in her car - wtf?!
she kept trying to change the cd whilst trying to drive (reaching on the floor, looking for a cd).
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Stuffwotifink
Yeah that is the first time I experienced pushing the hand through the glass... no idea why I tried this when lucid. Re: flinging myself through glass windows, this is a habit after getting lucid in one nightmare and escaping the building in a panic by jumping through the window, hoping I would awaken, it worked. I think it's just a habit now that I do without thinking when lucidly aware.
I think most people think themselves incapable of doing this stuff, total BS, anybody can, it's just finding a way I guess, and some people are inclinde to develop the ability more easily, who knows why? I wish they had a lucid dreaming pill, I would definitely pay... I think I have one of Steven Le Berge's books or some other well versed lucid dreamer...
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Had any weird dreams recently?
by LoveUniHateExams inso, i'll go first.. i dreamt last night that i was still at uni, i said goodbye to one of my lecturers.
then ulrika jonsson (former weather girl, shooting stars captain, and swedish nymphomaniac) gave me a lift home in her car - wtf?!
she kept trying to change the cd whilst trying to drive (reaching on the floor, looking for a cd).
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The Marvster
Great post, Loveunihateexams....
for some odd reason I've had about 5 lucid dreams in the past month, the most recent was the craziest..
I'm walking down the street and suddenly there's a cobweb blocking me, so I pull it out of my way, then another appears, then more and more until I try to charge through them all and they start to wrap around my body, pulling me to the floor.... well after fighting the damn things off i get up and throw the bundle of 'web stuff' away, and just flies up in the air and sticks to a wall high up on a near building and I immediately think, 'this is a dream, I'm dreaming'... so I start trying to construct things, I wish a building into existence and it appears, I turn the corner and wish another scene and it appears. then I notice my eyes are shutting and I think, damn, I'm losing it, I'm about to lose lucidity. then I awaken in bed, but I don't trust it, so I do an experiment and realise it's a 'false' awakening and i'm still dreaming... so I take my hand and push it through the glass of the window (I'm on the first floor of a house) and it softly goes through the glass, like entering another dimension, no smash, no pain... i then hurl myself through the glass smashing it and land on the pavement below, but then I wake up in bed again, so redo do the experiement, ' it's still a dream', put my hand through the glass 'again', it goes through softly again, throw myself out the window through the glass again, land on the pavement below, unhurt. Find myself next to a Barkley's Bank, push my hand through the glass door, goes through softly, push my whole leg through, same thing, and yep, you guessed it... decide to violently fling my body through the glass door of the bank and land on the carpet inside... then finally I awaken.. for real... wow, did I immediately grab pen and paper for that one, it was one of my faves....
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Astral Projection
by Black Man inso what are your thoughts on astral projection?
have a co-worker who claims to know how to induce this on himself.
is he crazy?
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The Marvster
Interesting topic....
I've experienced feelings of being outside my body, within the dream state, as stuffwotifink said, it is a shockingly unmistakeable experience, it's almlost ridiculous how convincing it feels. The last time I experienced this was during a 10 day meditation session, in the afternoon when I was sleeping I had a vivid lucid dream and towards the end was outside of my body and then fell back in to me... WTF was that... meditation can induce these experienceS...
here is the delusional poppycock part though, about a year ago, I experienced these sensations for about a month, while wide awake on my travels... like IMPOSSIBLE, and I wouldn't dare tell anybody this..... people think you're a crackpot... but when this sort of experience hits you you're like WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS???? UTTER DISBELIEF..
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This just in new policy bethel
by poopie ini called bethel recently asking a question.
the question was do you have a bible example of someone that showed pricipled love to anothet human by giving them the silent treament for months?
answer well bro are you a jw yes well we will aens the elders over to help you.
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The Marvster
This is exactly why I love this site....
there are so many ideas that just expose the insanity of Watchtower behaviour, I ideas that I could never have thought up myself, I mean, why the heck didn't anybody think about that one? Now you've pointed out, it's so frikkin' obvious...
I bet the bethelite on the other end of the line was pretty shocked...